tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post5038544841868852330..comments2023-07-15T04:20:16.543-05:00Comments on Almost Diamonds: Gun Factoids--Concealed CarryStephanie Zvanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-41719411790698591242010-06-24T11:46:31.973-05:002010-06-24T11:46:31.973-05:00To follow up on my own comment, the shall-issue la...To follow up on my own comment, the shall-issue law passed in MN in 2003 doesn't seem to have made any difference in the total or per-100k violent crimes rate during 1996-2009.Ben Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985694779451169100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-26453006319472824182010-06-23T16:41:00.341-05:002010-06-23T16:41:00.341-05:00At the risk of never seeing you again, it would be...At the risk of never seeing you again, it would be interesting to see the pre-and post carry law data. I seem to recall that shall-issue laws have no significant effect on crime rates, but I can't back that up.Ben Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12985694779451169100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-63195244253040131942010-06-23T14:49:53.689-05:002010-06-23T14:49:53.689-05:00Thomas, there are no standard deviations for what ...Thomas, there are no standard deviations for what I did. These aren't averages. They're absolute rates: total number of instances divided by total population. There is quite a bit of variability, though, between the states in each category. I'll add some links to the data as soon as I'm somewhere where I have more than the spreadsheet with me.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-5215130664576126982010-06-23T14:33:47.772-05:002010-06-23T14:33:47.772-05:00No way of knowing if the presented numbers are sig...No way of knowing if the presented numbers are significantly different. While the rape values definitely trend upwards for states with concealed gun laws, a couple of outliers could potentially be skewing the results. Standard deviations would be nice.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14211618861743447072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-7293732680249579252010-06-23T09:20:23.030-05:002010-06-23T09:20:23.030-05:00Agreed, D. C. I prefer a larger picture myself.Agreed, D. C. I prefer a larger picture myself.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-86015065689416963532010-06-23T09:19:56.390-05:002010-06-23T09:19:56.390-05:00So there is a possible link suggested by these dat...<i>So there is a possible link suggested by these data of relative frequency of rape and gun nuttiness?</i><br /><br />"Link" is such a lovely word, Greg. The first one that comes to mind is that gun fetishism and misogyny have a pretty strong cultural correlation.D. C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06515125525097163604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-91794857696400194222010-06-23T09:19:17.843-05:002010-06-23T09:19:17.843-05:00Possibly, but these are reported rape statistics, ...Possibly, but these are reported rape statistics, which (even for forcible rape) are problematic. I can come up with potential common explanations for both, but I'd want a bunch more data before it became anything to dig into.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-1526328254788159632010-06-23T09:17:46.984-05:002010-06-23T09:17:46.984-05:00I'm sorta the opposite of many folk: I'm m...I'm sorta the opposite of many folk: I'm more impressed when the numbers are adjusted for known confounders, where a lot of those I know don't trust statistics which have been "massaged."<br /><br />Of course, that may come down to picking the answers that we like best. I'm not totally sure about the impact on crime but vaguely recall that the gun-law differences are a lot smaller than other influences, which calls the whole business into question.D. C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06515125525097163604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-79984857402578453302010-06-23T09:16:36.817-05:002010-06-23T09:16:36.817-05:00So there is a possible link suggested by these dat...So there is a possible link suggested by these data of relative frequency of rape and gun nuttiness?Greg Ladenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04857616630819182647noreply@blogger.com