tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post345706585915709871..comments2023-07-15T04:20:16.543-05:00Comments on Almost Diamonds: The Judgment of Rep. WeinerStephanie Zvanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-50287091492090808312011-06-10T13:47:27.021-05:002011-06-10T13:47:27.021-05:00I really like what @Becca said:
"Based on wh...I really like what @Becca said:<br /><br />"Based on what I learned, I wouldn't marry Weiner. That doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for him. And frankly, I question the judgement of anyone who can't see the difference between asking someone to be your husband and asking them to be your congressman."<br /><br />I wouldn't marry Weiner either, but then, I'm not going to marry anyone else so it's a moot point. This is completely between him and his wife. If she has no issue with it, if it's part of their negotiated relationship, then WTF does anyone else have anything to say about it? If it's not part of their negotiations, then... WTF does anyone else have anything to say about it? <br /><br />Whether we approve of the activity or not, it's none of our business, any more than if he liked anal sex or water sports or bass fishing. Or even NASCAR! It's none of our business. <br /><br />Unfortunately, he didn't say this to the press. He lied about it. <i>That's</i> where his judgement was really poor. But frankly, completely understandable. If we were going to force members of congress to resign every time they lied about getting some, well, I suspect it would be a much emptier chamber.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-79035161521127007282011-06-10T08:06:41.589-05:002011-06-10T08:06:41.589-05:00Stephanie,
I think the prudery and prurient intere...Stephanie,<br />I think the prudery and prurient interest in the sex lives of our politicians - and the sujsequent calls for resignations by politicians who live in their own "Glass Houses" is as much about the loss of control many people feel as anything else. When you can't make a living, when you can't elect good people who will do the things that need doing, when you can't speak your mind because you don't have the cash to get anyone to listen - all these things and more add up to acting out on a collective scale. Sad - perhaps. Surprising - not to anyone who has spent more then five minutes studying history.Philip H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12049875206738422083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-49899630927145460632011-06-09T22:02:48.715-05:002011-06-09T22:02:48.715-05:00Different strokes...
This country seems to want t...Different strokes...<br /><br />This country seems to want to forget that we are mostly all of us sexual beings, those who are not being considered aberrant. As such, we express ourselves in different ways, and some of us are lucky enough to find a partner who matches our particular quirks.<br /><br />While most of us are private about what those quirks might be, some have the very quirk that makes us less private.<br /><br />Keeping that in mind, what makes Rep. Weiner "news" is two things. First, he yielded to the rather natural impulse to try to hide the truth. He lied. <br /><br />Second, he's a Democrat. If you want to see how that matters, look at Gingrich and his history of serial mistresses while the current wives are sick. Or David "diaper" "hooker" Vitter, whose proclivities are told in the nicknames, and yet who still holds office. Not only are the sex scandals much ignored if you're Republican, but so are the lies. Think "death panels" or the "WMDs" in Iraq.<br /><br />Now those are lies truly worthy of national unrelenting press attention.<br /><br />As for congress, I'd much rather have Weiner represent me than who I do have. Whether he makes good husband material is for his wife to decide, not us.Heather M. Rosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17531766752385785489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-48188796524535532232011-06-09T21:48:58.656-05:002011-06-09T21:48:58.656-05:00#1 - I still dream of that turkey soup!
#2 - Prude...#1 - I still dream of that turkey soup!<br />#2 - Prudery narrows options/ideas - agreed.<br />#3 P.I.C. - I'm not his psychiatrist, the behaviour sounds compulsive. I know zip about sexting people - this could have been premeditated - Good point. He's a public figure, and didn't really know the people he was tweeting to, I still say bad judgement here.<br /><br />#4 - demonstrating apparent lack of concern for family/loved ones. His actions show his desires were more important than his fiance/wife. Agreed - we cannot know her position on this. Does that selfishness stop with personal matters?<br /><br />#5 The media did a good job - I FORGOT about Coleman's mistress! Thinking on this point - thanks!<br /><br />#6 High standards - yup, my acknowledged prudery definitely pushes my buttons on the topic of marriage. (thank you, starter marriage of mine.) What marriage means to me can't reflect values in every marriage. I don't understand how open marriages don't hurt the other partner, so I don't have one. (plus I hate sharing). <br /><br />I perceive sexting as a juvenile 'look at me!' flirtation. It doesn't speak to me of maturity or judgement, and I'd rather not stinkin' KNOW about the dude's sexcapades. No thanks to the media for shoving this in our faces. He put the pictures out on social media himself. That the pics came to light isn't surprising to me - was it to him?<br /><br />#7 compulsive - agree with your point. Still think it's juvenile at best, but you can say the same thing about my punning!<br /><br />#6.5 - I think it's his future decision making, more than the personal-life decisions I'm questioning. <br /><br />#8 - his past record is solid but the dude's personal decisions are juvenile at best (yes, IMO!) unthought-out at worst. Both are human - not evil or deviant. But if he doesn't want his personal life to become public - it doesn't belong on Twitter. Thinking he could manage his image, once in the hands of other people he barely knew is either naivete or arrogance. <br /><br />Should we fire him for that? No. Is societal prudery making this a bigger deal than ought to be? Probably. Do I want him to step down? If it kept him from doing more harm than good - yes. But it doesn't mean that I think I can be the judge of that one.<br /><br />Thanks for the great discussion - are you busy on Sunday? Coffee again sounds good to me :-)Sharihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15698723929756681121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-56501300008519713632011-06-09T21:37:12.493-05:002011-06-09T21:37:12.493-05:00It's poor judgement to get caught with your pa...It's poor judgement to get caught with your pants down. It's really rather silly to claim otherwise.<br /><br />That said, 'good judgement' is not something any human being that actually exists has in all facets of life. It's situation-dependent. For example, I trust Carebear's judgement to a very large degree in matters of appropriate controls for molecular biology experiments, and not a whit in assessing the likelihood of aliens that have interacted with us. <br />I trust my own judgement on all manner of things- but not whether a particular person will be a great boss for me to work under (my judgement has been far too flawed in the past on that issue). <br /><br />Based on what I learned, I wouldn't marry Weiner. That doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for him. And frankly, I question the judgement of anyone who can't see the difference between asking someone to be your husband and asking them to be your congressman.Beccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15356974556397009124noreply@blogger.com