tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post5692209563643361805..comments2023-07-15T04:20:16.543-05:00Comments on Almost Diamonds: The Mooney/Kirshenbaum StrategyStephanie Zvanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-958219336093035192009-07-20T09:48:33.413-05:002009-07-20T09:48:33.413-05:00Until you can get a publication or website, or som...Until you can get a publication or website, or <b>something</b> that attracts a wide audience of laypeople with science, you have nothing to mediate. <br /><br />The only thing to do until there is a common point to elaborate science and entertain everyone is to keep pointing out the failures of media to communicate science accurately.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18349980798171765303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-69013393920722091512009-07-13T09:36:06.273-05:002009-07-13T09:36:06.273-05:00I don't have anyone specific in mind. Most of ...I don't have anyone specific in mind. Most of the people I hang with are people who, frankly, are more interested in pushing limits than finding compromises. <br /><br />I do have a list of qualifications, though. They include things like being meticulous in accurately describing the positions of people you disagree with, addressing criticism instead of labeling it unproductive, soliciting input and not requiring that people pay for access to your solutions. None of those requirements are being met here.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-49161484401052274422009-07-13T08:57:22.915-05:002009-07-13T08:57:22.915-05:00Stephanie,
Playing Devil's Advocate a bit, if ...Stephanie,<br />Playing Devil's Advocate a bit, if you don't want Sheril and Chris mediating the national debate on the roles of religion and science, then whom do you nominate? Surely not the good Prof. Meyers? His blog-o-sphere followers aren't exactly always civilized, and he seems to want them to run amok so as to drive his traffic numbers up, all the while pulling a "who me" blanket over his own eyes.Philip H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12049875206738422083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-1968812299499446472009-07-12T21:30:15.690-05:002009-07-12T21:30:15.690-05:00Hilariously, Chris and Sheril seem to have plenty ...Hilariously, Chris and Sheril seem to have plenty of time to respond back and forth with the <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/12/85744/9954?detail=f" rel="nofollow">denizens of Daily Kos</a>. Thought you might like to know.Jason Thibeaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595673310069068735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-36747905683155285692009-07-12T14:45:51.596-05:002009-07-12T14:45:51.596-05:00Greg, I agree that their essential point is valid,...Greg, I agree that their essential point is valid, and I agree that scientists have a part to play in fixing the problem. However, that does not and will not stop me from pointing to their hypocrisy and double standards any more than agreeing that family plays an important part in people's lives will stop me from mocking Governor Sanford. <br /><br />When even <i>Publishers Weekly</i>, <i>the</i> big review magazine, notes that Chris and Sheril are obviously, but not credibly, trying to position themselves as the mediators of a national debate, it's worth bringing up. It doesn't mean that I've stopped caring about science communication.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-23410170412484080442009-07-12T14:16:52.793-05:002009-07-12T14:16:52.793-05:00Ah, but you are ignoring the essential point of th...Ah, but you are ignoring the essential point of their book, which is quite valid. <br /><br />And since I'm mostly reading material these days published before 1899, I'm going to use the word "quite" quite a bit.Greg Ladenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04857616630819182647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-18491432368971070282009-07-12T14:01:22.922-05:002009-07-12T14:01:22.922-05:00This whole concept reminds me of this for some rea...This whole concept reminds me of this for some reason, and I can't pin down why:<br /><br />http://wonkette.com/407270/michael-steele-totally-meant-to-do-that<br /><br />(Okay, I so can pin down why, but I can't escape the critical mass of snark that's going on here.)Jason Thibeaulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01595673310069068735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-47226054752379785342009-07-12T12:44:19.429-05:002009-07-12T12:44:19.429-05:00And here I suspected that they were actually tryin...And here I suspected that they were actually trying to boost publicity by sending a review copy to PZ.<br /><br />Clever strategy, and kudos to them. We all played our parts in their game.Mike Haubrichhttp://tuibguy.comnoreply@blogger.com