tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post6656430996810349465..comments2023-07-15T04:20:16.543-05:00Comments on Almost Diamonds: Painful Phone CallsStephanie Zvanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-46279453274799733062009-03-29T13:27:00.000-05:002009-03-29T13:27:00.000-05:00Crystal, have you listened to the show with (I thi...Crystal, have you listened to the show with (I think) Jeff and Lee? That got a much better reception than this last debate show, while still being somewhat adversarial. <BR/><BR/>And you're coming to the next radio committee meeting, yes? At the very least, send your thoughts to the list.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-62760789668725348392009-03-29T10:47:00.000-05:002009-03-29T10:47:00.000-05:00PS: more callers, fewer softball questions: I wa...PS: more callers, fewer softball questions: I was just listening to the 'debate' between atheist and christian from a bit ago... I appreciate the technique that August uses very much, but it doesn't really make for anything different or interesting at times. I don't think that we need to be jerks, but I felt there were quite a few things that the christian man could've really been called on, but he wasn't...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-1236357845856566192009-03-26T13:50:00.000-05:002009-03-26T13:50:00.000-05:00Brian, I don't think you're ranting, and I don't t...Brian, I don't think you're ranting, and I don't think we disagree. It's all good. I just thought it was interesting to see how the message has changed over time.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-90261378593585403282009-03-26T09:16:00.000-05:002009-03-26T09:16:00.000-05:00I know it sounds very simplistic, Stephanie, and p...I know it sounds very simplistic, Stephanie, and people will go "blah blah blah, yeah be positive..sorry can't do that," but I don't beat myself up over this.<BR/><BR/>The school I went to that specialized in learning disabilites didn't focus on blaming anything - you focus on what you can do exceptionally well and go with that. My skill that I can do exceptionally well is math. I use that in my career to show I have this ability that I strongly believe benefits my employer especially understanding how funds are applied to client policies. My teachers taught me that this is the ability I highlight that I take advantage of.<BR/><BR/>It's turning a disadvantage into an advantage that allows you to be successful.<BR/><BR/>My apologizies if I'm ranting, but I felt it was best to leave this comment instead of going OT by calling into the radio show, which what my first instinct was to do.Brian M. Knoblockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01139177493362219725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-18582312112333188992009-03-26T09:14:00.000-05:002009-03-26T09:14:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Brian M. Knoblockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01139177493362219725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-84356157970766279152009-03-25T19:58:00.000-05:002009-03-25T19:58:00.000-05:00Brian, interesting. I've never heard that advice. ...Brian, interesting. I've never heard that advice. Having a cousin with Asperger's, I'm impressed. Of course, they've done a lot of work over the years to stop handing people the unrealistic emotional burden of "You must stay positive."<BR/><BR/>I've definitely heard people talking about not letting the disability blind you to what you (or your kid) can do. Dead on, that.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-1924914295812704532009-03-25T11:47:00.000-05:002009-03-25T11:47:00.000-05:00Listening to the caller with the two Autistic chil...Listening to the caller with the two Autistic children, I was a little sympathetic, having been classified with a learning disability myself in the 6th grade. However, I don't blame the vaccines I received when I was 1 for it. I never did. Neither did my parents.<BR/><BR/>When I was growing up, I always heard that it was always important for the parents and the child who has Autism or something related to not get angry and blame something for it that just isn't, or even blame themselves. Keeping a positive attitude is very important in those cases. <BR/><BR/>Blaming something like a vaccine keeps you from realizing your potential as a human being.Brian M. Knoblockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01139177493362219725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-46331044438133038782009-03-25T00:32:00.000-05:002009-03-25T00:32:00.000-05:00Crystal, I agree we need more callers and fewer so...Crystal, I agree we need more callers and fewer softball questions. I'd take confused over angry, though. It's easier to work through.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-49591606455078336602009-03-24T08:52:00.000-05:002009-03-24T08:52:00.000-05:00I get that people become angry when we can't give ...I get that people become angry when we can't give them the easy answer of 'god will fix you'. I would say myself that even if the truth is much more difficult to understand, or even difficult to endure, that I would rather have the truth. <BR/><BR/>More angry callers is exactly what we need anyway, it drums up interest! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-87149266566824830022009-03-23T18:21:00.000-05:002009-03-23T18:21:00.000-05:00Scott, I will happily do just that if I can.Scott, I will happily do just that if I can.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-7628482891777505372009-03-23T09:26:00.000-05:002009-03-23T09:26:00.000-05:00"gregladens" last 2 comments sum up my thoughts......"gregladens" last 2 comments sum up my thoughts...<BR/>Enjoyed the podcast! Please have PalMD on again!Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08394474683388457861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-48517674909187407332009-03-23T09:14:00.000-05:002009-03-23T09:14:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-13151016939982609782009-03-22T21:34:00.000-05:002009-03-22T21:34:00.000-05:00Okay, Pal, next time you'll just have to come to t...Okay, Pal, next time you'll just have to come to the station, where we all pack up afterward and go to the restaurant. We'll even let PalKid in the studio. She was a hit.<BR/><BR/>(And I thought you were just still confused by the finale.)<BR/><BR/>Greg, I've pretty well given up on trying to figure out who's a hopeless case. I've hit critical mass on people with whom I thought I was conducting "show" arguments (because I was never going to reach them but might reach someone else) who now do things like randomly jump to my defense when they don't think someone is paying attention to what I'm saying. I don't know that I've convinced them of anything, but it's really hard to keep saying they're not reachable.<BR/><BR/>Okay, so some people really probably are unreachable, but then I come back to the show argument. If I treat them as though they are reachable, I may reach someone else.<BR/><BR/>And then, sometimes, I just want to have a chat with friends, in which case, the people who are listening are on their own.<BR/><BR/>Lou, it kind of balanced out. Most of the interview was a breeze. :)<BR/><BR/>Mike, agreed on both parts.Stephanie Zvanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15182490110208080002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-48412524652623099642009-03-22T21:29:00.000-05:002009-03-22T21:29:00.000-05:00hmmm...i think i wrote the name of your new senato...hmmm...i think i wrote the name of your new senator rather than the geeky curse i meant to write.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-52301226460138612312009-03-22T21:09:00.000-05:002009-03-22T21:09:00.000-05:00OK< the damned ads for the restaurant killed me...OK< the damned ads for the restaurant killed me. We don't have a kitchen right now and i was frankin starving...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-25380542979360776462009-03-22T20:53:00.000-05:002009-03-22T20:53:00.000-05:00This show is important for the archives, because w...This show is important for the archives, because we did touch on how those of us with a rational approach can too easily dismiss the concerns of the ill when dealing with false remedies. And, the show was excellent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-66441492661552051582009-03-22T20:41:00.000-05:002009-03-22T20:41:00.000-05:00BTW, PAL gave hard answers with excellent bedside ...BTW, PAL gave hard answers with excellent bedside manner, but of course, that won't help in extreme cases.gregladenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13934749780421265510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-52097934879251079722009-03-22T20:40:00.000-05:002009-03-22T20:40:00.000-05:00Well, I finally listened to the show and it was gr...Well, I finally listened to the show and it was great. PalMD rocks. <BR/><BR/>(And SZ, great job with the interview!)<BR/><BR/>Key high points: It is ethical to not make stuff up just to make people happy. <BR/><BR/>Distinction between evidence based medicine and science based medicine (which I kind of interpret as empirical vs. empirical plus good theory), and the meaning of the scientific consensus.<BR/><BR/>The idea that, in the eyes of some of the individuals and families affected by a disease, MD's do not look at everything was revealing of the nature of the relationship between scientific MD and patient. <BR/><BR/>And the discussion of the Placebo effect was worth the whole show. <BR/> <BR/>I found the nurse who called in interesting. Could not have been better if planned. Nicely handled, P.A.L. <BR/><BR/>Too bad this was a phone rather than in person interview, as it would have been fun to get together at Q-cumbers. <BR/><BR/>I strongly urge everyone to go listen to this interview. <BR/><BR/>Note: The Minnesota Atheist Talk Radio Show on Sunday AM is sandwiched between woo-pedaling infomercials.gregladenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13934749780421265510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-52925852568447031652009-03-22T20:33:00.000-05:002009-03-22T20:33:00.000-05:00Ouch, sounds like a very tough show.I haven't list...Ouch, sounds like a very tough show.<BR/><BR/>I haven't listened to the show yet either, but it seems like giving the hard answer is the only right thing to do, and you have a good take on what happens if you give the easy answer: in the end, other people get hurt.<BR/><BR/>What you are doing in the more general sense is what needs to be done. We all need to stem the tide of this poison of ignorance and gullibility that pervades our society. You folks are doing good stuff, and that's all we can ask of you.Lou FCDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13975892485240863279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38764987.post-49178324007054879272009-03-22T18:57:00.000-05:002009-03-22T18:57:00.000-05:00So, was this because PalMD was approaching this in...So, was this because PalMD was approaching this in a way that alienated rather than brought (somewhat) on board the people who disagree with him, or were they hopeless cases? (I've not listened to the show yet, but I will fairly soon.) <BR/><BR/>There is a difference between blogging (in which you can easily ignore everyone), being a doctor (in which you might be able to easily ignore or at least pull rank on a lot of people) and blogging heading (in which you are not connected to a two way communication device) on one hand, all of which PalMD is very good at, vs. having this sort of interaction. <BR/><BR/>There's a readon that PZ myers gives a lot of talks but hardly any of them are in churches, but Genie Scott gives a lot of talks in churches.<BR/><BR/>I quickly add that I am not being judgmental here of anyone's methods. All these different things need to be done. Just wondering about your take on the approach that was used (and eventually, as I say, I'll actually listen to it and possibly have something specific to say).gregladenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13934749780421265510noreply@blogger.com